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As well as some fine drone footage.Ya I agree. I plan to mainly windfoil and windsurf, but I think it'll be awesome sometimes heading out in some big rollers and going upwind and surf downwind on a wing, like around Trial Island area, once I've got it cased.juandesooka wrote:I think you may be wrong on that on two fronts First, one of the main groups online focused on winging are the sup foilers and surf foilers who have no prior wind experience. Winging is seen as an extension of their wave foiling, using the wind instead of having to paddle. To some people, winging is a wind-thing, but to these people it's more a foil-thing.nanmoo wrote:I think that is a bit deceiving. The best students are upwind on a kite within an hour of starting. You can imagine how they'd look after 6 weeks.
Winging just allows you to "start" with very little knowledge or safety training unlike kiting or windsurfing, but it's not easier than kiting or kite foiling and you can do either of those in less wind.
It's an alternative but I really doubt it will stand as a sport on it's own for people who don't already Kite or WS. My guess is unlike BMX/Skateboard/Rollerblade you won't see a third tribe at the Liquid skatepark.
These are all surfers first and surfers generally hate the wind.
It is amusing to hear these folks, as they are on fire about first time using wind for fun. I suspect a number of these folks will progress beyond winging into kiting and windsurfing once the wind bug has bitten.
Second: following a lot of online discussion about wings in kite forums (and I assume similar in windsurf forums), the vast majority of people who are already accomplished wind chasers see the wings as kooky and pointless. I agree to a point, as they are less efficient. They are little faster to rig and easier to launch than a kite in difficult launch spots. Other than that, if just flat water, you'd be better off to kite or ws. The killer app, IMHO, is wave riding: you can use wind to get in, then can get 100% depower and ride the wave independent of wind.
Definitely is if you look at the numbers. "Core" brands have seen sales collapse drastically across all board types, some of that is being replaced by budget stuff at Walmart/Costco/Canadian tire (especially cheap inflatables), but it's hardly in the boom phase it was several years ago across all segments. I'm not being a hater to SUP or Rollerblading, both have their place and I still own both. I can't actually figure out why the latter one died out since it is so affordable, accessible and transferable. Cheap SUP boards could offer the same except you can't make one for $100 that you can lift onto your car and have it last more than a few drops here and there.juandesooka wrote:Is SUP fringe now? That's funny as it seems busier than ever ... though I note the former BWD hard cores have either aged out or moved on to brighter things. I am grateful that "performance SUP" seems to be dying out, as the worst of the worst when it comes to surfing style.
Wonder if that's a sign to the start of the decline, places like Canadian Tire apparently used to sell the plastic style windsurfers, than tried again to get in with the inflatable wind gliders in the early 2000s.nanmoo wrote:Definitely is if you look at the numbers. "Core" brands have seen sales collapse drastically across all board types, some of that is being replaced by budget stuff at Walmart/Costco/Canadian tire (especially cheap inflatables), but it's hardly in the boom phase it was several years ago across all segments. I'm not being a hater to SUP or Rollerblading, both have their place and I still own both. I can't actually figure out why the latter one died out since it is so affordable, accessible and transferable. Cheap SUP boards could offer the same except you can't make one for $100 that you can lift onto your car and have it last more than a few drops here and there.juandesooka wrote:Is SUP fringe now? That's funny as it seems busier than ever ... though I note the former BWD hard cores have either aged out or moved on to brighter things. I am grateful that "performance SUP" seems to be dying out, as the worst of the worst when it comes to surfing style.
I'm with ya. As mainly a SUPer these last few years I am mainly intrigued by the DW bit. And that seems to be a possibility right here at Clover Pt/Cook St with enough skills. Laps/repeats without needing to run shuttles? Not having to drive hours to get to a wind spot? I'm in. I fully expect to get laughed at initially by the kiters and WSers!downwind dave wrote:id like to give this wing foilin' a go, i think i'm a good candidate with my WS background and fear of stringed toys (guitars exempt). Just waiting for guys to figure out what works. then i dumpster everything bigger than 4.7
new kites = amazing, no comparisondownwind dave wrote:id like to give this wing foilin' a go, i think i'm a good candidate with my WS background and fear of stringed toys (guitars exempt). Just waiting for guys to figure out what works. then i dumpster everything bigger than 4.7
Tell you what, those SUP foilers at the Gorge are about the most annoying thing I’ve ever encountered on water...I think they beat idiot jetskiers....at least those are bored very quickly and then leavewinddude wrote:Trying to push the "new" thing to get people to buy more gear.
and don’t keep drifting by over and over just as you line up a beauty for a ride or aerial 
maybe wingers are a lot like ‘em 
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