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I view this as a positive step.KUS wrote:Paradise was lost when they first logged "for safety" way back....
It's really gone now, so is my respect, so sad....why don'tcha just pave the whole f&*ker
Day of Mourning
) As a windsurfer, coming in close to the beach above the kiters there always seems to be a big area of no or light wind close to shore so I don't venture there staying more in the middle of the lake as far upwind as you can go. Regardless the best wind seems to be where every one sails already except on the really good days when it's fun to go way downwind too. Maybe the newcomers to Nitnat (as in only started using it in the last ten years or less) will enjoy the new sites but as an old-time user of the camp I am really disappointed about the distruction of more forest and sites put in that will likely sit empty for the majority of the time. I hope I'm wrong and it actually helps strike a good balance for all users. We are all paying for it though with higher camp fees for a severe lack of maintenance with the current outhouse situation. 💩I am not purposely poopoo-ing the plans to maintain status quo, something needs to change, but this is not the answer. It is difficult beyond imagination when I recall the Lake as one of the older folks who cherished this quiet magical place....I guess I had resigned myself to the fact that there was not much left to destroy in the old campground. Every square inch has been compromised. The Sitka giants and berries, cozy separate camping sites are gone. The walk to the river and swimming holes were the remaining "nature" and bits of the old magic despite the overuse and disrespectful visitor behavior resulting in the place looking like a street people hangout.skywalker wrote: I view this as a positive step.
Most of the lake is not used. Because of where the campsite is, a few tracks of water are overcrowded. I hope this will spread people out a bit so everyone can find their piece of NN magic
It is paving of the Youbou road, park expansion though that will bring more and more users. More areas will get abused, trampled, more of the old guard of trees cut down to finance things or serve as bases of fire pits, clotheslines and "fort" construction. I'm not sure having more space is the answer, I have seen all this in Europe, the parking lot just gets bigger and dustier til there is nothing left but concrete, compacted earth. As to the water tracks being overcrowded, this relates to the wind quality or show off sailors needing to impress their peers/admirers on shore....why else would you not venture up or down the lake....I do 
just to get some quiet time and explore. 
Rich Coleman, the backroom pay cheque collector, chief of them allnanmoo wrote:I'm curious of the history of how there came to be private land that far west?
Pressure lies in the eye of the beholder....the owner can just say: FULL (on those two or three July/August weekends). Or set it up so more fit efficiently and effectively. Another outhouse, number sites, assign less space to each user...it's ridiculous how large some the sites were and some single f&*k would just block the access with his truck/RV for one (and for weeks or even months at a time!!) that could have housed three families easily....Atomic-Chomik wrote:The old days are gone. Don't bother lamenting about it. The place was suffering ridiculous pressure on those few sites, more and more every year. More sites will make for less pressure and stressful conditions factoring in how it is now, not 10 years ago.
it's just if you have been designated as the gatekeeper for a wind/lake/environmental paradise, one might expect some more appreciation for this higher calling you are it, after this it's just temporary, minimal dollars and erosion, your choice certainly
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