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    Session
     winddoctor Wednesday December 8, 2021
    Clover Pt, Wingfoiling
    This year: 90
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    Log started:
    Sunday August 22, 2004
    Total records: 1062
    This year: 90

    Wednesday December 8, 2021 Clover Pt, Wingfoiling
     Wednesday December 8, 2021 Conditions TOW Toys Used: Edit/View record
     Clover Pt, Wingfoiling W 18 - 30
    Mixed
    1.30 hours Quatro Wing Drifter Pro 90 5.4
    Takuma Wingride 3 4M
    Armstrong HA 1125 with 85 mast, V tail
    Not stoked initially to go out, Brrrrr!. TK and I finally jumped off Clover and ended up with a great session. Scraped my foil on the hidden reef coming back into the boat ramp. Man I hate this part of foiling. 1125 in this much wind was pretty fun but technical to turn well. Long easy glides though! Lots of blinding outbound rides into the glare but some great drifts too. Dish gloves made this session possible and even fun!
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     bbthelooper Friday December 3, 2021
    LV, Kitefoiling
    This year: 2
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    Log started:
    Friday July 10, 2009
    Total records: 437
    This year: 2

    Friday December 3, 2021 LV, Kitefoiling
     Friday December 3, 2021 Conditions TOW Toys Used: Edit/View record
     LV, Kitefoiling N 16 - 25
    Noodlable
    1.00 hours Lift Foil
    Duotone Sls neo 6m
    Gusty wind at first then about 1.5 hrs of soild before it it dropped off. Everything is easier to do with the new neo kites. I am very impressed with them.
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     Bobson Friday December 3, 2021
    Cattle Pt, Windfoiling
    This year: 148
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    Log started:
    Tuesday July 13, 2004
    Total records: 448
    This year: 148

    Friday December 3, 2021 Cattle Pt, Windfoiling
     Friday December 3, 2021 Conditions TOW Toys Used: Edit/View record
     Cattle Pt, Windfoiling N 8 - 14
    Flat
    1.50 hours Starboard Freeride 125
    Sailworks Flyer 7.0
    Starboard Stabilizer 255
    Starboard Mast 85cm
    Starboard Front wing 1100
    Starboard Fuse 115+
    Day off, needed wind. It was marginal, even for the 7.0m. 10-14kts to begin with so had some good foiling run and gybes then dropped down to 8-10kts so had to work at pumping up in the gusts that were few and far between. Good workout though, waaaay better than going to the gym. A little chilly on the fingers. Still trying to go without gloves. Weekend forecast doesn't look great so had to try today.

    BOBSON OUT!!
    GPS Track: CP - Marginal and Chilly1:52 PM to 3:15 PM
    Moving Time01:21:12
    Planing/Foiling Time 00:19:06
    Distance (km)13.2
    Speed (Max/2s/100m knots)25.7 / 25.7 / 25.5
    Number of Turns 32 (19% Planing/Foiling)
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     Tsawwassen Thursday December 2, 2021
    Acadia, Wingfoiling
    This year: 62
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    Log started:
    Wednesday December 19, 2012
    Total records: 460
    This year: 62

    Thursday December 2, 2021 Acadia, Wingfoiling
     Thursday December 2, 2021 Conditions TOW Toys Used: Edit/View record
     Acadia, Wingfoiling NW 25 - 30
    large
    2.00 hours AK Phazer 110
    Airush Freewing 5.0
    Moses Onda Surf 790 82 cm/790/450
    Nice day at Acadia but I found it really cold and should have taken some gloves!! Was way over powered on the 5.0 wing but managed to hold on and score a few nice wave rides while staying in control. The rest of time it was carnage, but fun carnage! Got an unintentional off the lip with the foil today, well the foil decided to got for it leaving me behind. Tried out my new camera, finally, yes today I remembered to put the SD card in.
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     winddoctor Thursday December 2, 2021
    Sniffo's, Wingfoiling
    This year: 90
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    Log started:
    Sunday August 22, 2004
    Total records: 1062
    This year: 90

    Thursday December 2, 2021 Sniffo's, Wingfoiling
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     Sniffo's, Wingfoiling W 12 - 23
    1-3'
    1.50 hours Armstrong FG 115 5.11
    Takuma WK 5.2
    Armstrong HS 1850 with 72 mast
    SUP foiled a bit in the dying swell then the wind ramped. Novelty session. Don't love winging on a 72 mast!
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     Seakelp Thursday December 2, 2021
    B-Bay, Wingfoiling
    This year: 63
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    Log started:
    Monday February 7, 2011
    Total records: 116
    This year: 63

    Thursday December 2, 2021 B-Bay, Wingfoiling
     Thursday December 2, 2021 Conditions TOW Toys Used: Edit/View record
     B-Bay, Wingfoiling SSE 10 - 19
    Smallish
    2.50 hours Quatro WingDrifter pro 5'4"
    Armstrong Foil 925
    F-One Strike 4.2 meter
    Fun warm session in the bay.
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     C36 Wednesday December 1, 2021
    Centennial, Windsurfing
    This year: 46
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    Log started:
    Sunday January 18, 2015
    Total records: 524
    This year: 46

    Wednesday December 1, 2021 Centennial, Windsurfing
     Wednesday December 1, 2021 Conditions TOW Toys Used: Edit/View record
     Centennial, Windsurfing S 3 - 23
    confused
    1.00 hours Goya Quad Custom 92
    Ezzy Taka 4.5
    Sun was out, wind was on, swell was building...

    ...and then it wasn't. Jens got the best of it.

    Gallery (to view as a slideshow click on the screen icon top right)
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     bbthelooper Wednesday December 1, 2021
    LV, Kitefoiling
    This year: 2
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    Log started:
    Friday July 10, 2009
    Total records: 437
    This year: 2

    Wednesday December 1, 2021 LV, Kitefoiling
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     LV, Kitefoiling N 10 - 14
    Small swell
    1.00 hours Lift Foil
    Duotone Dice 8m
    Loving the new kite. Cannot believe I'm on such a small kite. One of the biggest kite improvements I've seen since I bought a 2008 Vegas.
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     sixlinewrasse Wednesday December 1, 2021
    3rd Ave B.Bay, Wingfoiling
    This year: 54
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    Log started:
    Wednesday October 14, 2015
    Total records: 373
    This year: 54

    Wednesday December 1, 2021 3rd Ave B.Bay, Wingfoiling
     Wednesday December 1, 2021 Conditions TOW Toys Used: Edit/View record
     3rd Ave B.Bay, Wingfoiling S 17 - 25
    Flatish
    2.00 hours KT Hawaii Quatro Drifter Pro 5'8", 115 Lts.
    North Nova Quiver
    North Sonar 1850R cm2 Wing
    Good wind speed on the 4.2m wing. Except for the huge lull around 1! It came but but was tired of falling in.
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     grantmac Wednesday December 1, 2021
    Esquimalt Lgn, Windfoiling
    This year: 42
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    Log started:
    Sunday November 4, 2018
    Total records: 142
    This year: 42

    Wednesday December 1, 2021 Esquimalt Lgn, Windfoiling
     Wednesday December 1, 2021 Conditions TOW Toys Used: Edit/View record
     Esquimalt Lgn, Windfoiling WSW 5 - 20
    Choppy
    2.00 hours Starboard Hypernut 106
    Simmer Blacktip 5.3
    Starboard E-type 1300
    First foil session in a while and not an easy day for it. About as gusty as I've ever seen EL with big offshore shifts.
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     Tsawwassen Wednesday December 1, 2021
    Centennial Beach, Wingfoiling
    This year: 62
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    Log started:
    Wednesday December 19, 2012
    Total records: 460
    This year: 62

    Wednesday December 1, 2021 Centennial Beach, Wingfoiling
     Wednesday December 1, 2021 Conditions TOW Toys Used: Edit/View record
     Centennial Beach, Wingfoiling SSE 10 - 25
    small swell
    3.00 hours AK Phazer 110
    Airush Freewing 5.0
    Moses Onda Surf 790 82 cm/790/450
    What turned out to be a very disappointing windsurf session turned into a very fun winging session. Rigged 4.7 as conditions looked great when I arrived, Dave was rigging 4.5 and Jens looked lit on his 5.0. Waves were looking good and I was stoked, but by the time I hit the water things were starting to get light. I got one reach on the 4.7 and then it was slog time. Came back in and grabbed the wing. Just as I was heading out the wind picked back up. By the time sailed up to 3rd Ave. it was just Dan and I ... (more)
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     Joostio Tuesday November 30, 2021
    Comox Spit, Kitesurfing
    This year: 49
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    Log started:
    Thursday June 11, 2009
    Total records: 257
    This year: 49

    Tuesday November 30, 2021 Comox Spit, Kitesurfing
     Tuesday November 30, 2021 Conditions TOW Toys Used: Edit/View record
     Comox Spit, Kitesurfing SE 20 - 30
    Salty and frothy
    2.00 hours Ocean Rodeo Creep 5.1
    Ocean Rodeo Smoothy 136
    Ocean Rodeo Crave HL 7
    Wind was gusty, caught a gust mid jump, scary shit!

    Did try some more tacks but I really suck at them.

    Very cold at the end.
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     altoning Tuesday November 30, 2021
    3rd Avenue, Kitesurfing
    This year: 153
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    Log started:
    Thursday February 21, 2013
    Total records: 1012
    This year: 153

    Tuesday November 30, 2021 3rd Avenue, Kitesurfing
     Tuesday November 30, 2021 Conditions TOW Toys Used: Edit/View record
     3rd Avenue, Kitesurfing SSE 16 - 25
    waves
    4.00 hours Machan Vader 5'0'
    Airush Ultra V2 12m
    Airush Ultra V2 8m
    Sweet afternoon at 3rd Ave :D

    Early afternoon was SSE 16-22 so alternated between 12m+surfboard and 8m+surfboard. Late afternoon to dark was the best. Steady SSE 20-25 with cleaner waves perfect for 8m.

    Makani weed fins were excellent. Zero drag and so easy to pinch upwind well past the boat launch.

    This should tie me over while you guys enjoy Wednesday and Thursday without me :cry:
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     eastside Tuesday November 30, 2021
    Columbia Bch, Windsurfing
    This year: 25
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    Log started:
    Wednesday September 19, 2007
    Total records: 966
    This year: 25

    Tuesday November 30, 2021 Columbia Bch, Windsurfing
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     Columbia Bch, Windsurfing SE 27 - 32
    Odd sm/med wave
    2.00 hours Goya Thruster 86
    Ezzy Taka 4.1
    Really windy when I arrived. Put on the 4.1 which was a good call for awhile until it got gusty. Shoulder goodish. Taka working well.
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     KUS Tuesday November 30, 2021
    San Pariel, Windsurfing
    This year: 43
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    Log started:
    Sunday October 17, 2004
    Total records: 1633
    This year: 43

    Tuesday November 30, 2021 San Pariel, Windsurfing
     Tuesday November 30, 2021 Conditions TOW Toys Used: Edit/View record
     San Pariel, Windsurfing SE 23 - 28
    2-3ft, odd 4 ft
    2.20 hours Ibuprofen, Robaxacet, Codein 600mg bombs
    hot tub bubbly with brown pops 6x6
    Damsel Poncha leopard skin
    That was pretty fun, sun came out! No rain, got lucky. A few waves, decent runs on 5.0/94 combo, then re-rig Jelly but it was ramping big, went straight to 4.2/85 myself, ripped around, very nicely dialed for a change. NO CHOP, wooohoo! It died off a little 30 later and I went back to the 94....then more so I called it, not rigging a 3rd sail and wet lunch hour was long over by the time I resumed my prison seat in front of the laptop grrrrr No Udder or DM today, huh....usual suspects in attendance, AJ ... (more)
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     sixlinewrasse Tuesday November 30, 2021
    Corbould Rd, B.Bay, Wingfoiling
    This year: 54
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    Log started:
    Wednesday October 14, 2015
    Total records: 373
    This year: 54

    Tuesday November 30, 2021 Corbould Rd, B.Bay, Wingfoiling
     Tuesday November 30, 2021 Conditions TOW Toys Used: Edit/View record
     Corbould Rd, B.Bay, Wingfoiling SE 15 - 25
    Flat, Swell, flat , Swell
    2.50 hours KT Hawaii Quatro Drifter Pro 5'8", 115 Lts.
    North Sonar 1850R cm2 Wing
    Typical gusty wind on the edge of a front. Launch at noon with 5M, but back on the beach at 1240 to rig the 4.2M. Great for an hour, then it died off after a rain squall and took 30 minutes to come back. Went back out for the finale as it came up again. Was hoping for more progress, but just surviving.
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     shaggy Saturday November 27, 2021
    Island View, Windfoiling
    This year: 66
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    Log started:
    Saturday January 17, 2009
    Total records: 476
    This year: 66

    Saturday November 27, 2021 Island View, Windfoiling
     Saturday November 27, 2021 Conditions TOW Toys Used: Edit/View record
     Island View, Windfoiling SE 12 - 17
    2footers
    1.00 hours Quatro Wingdrifter 80L
    Cabrinha Crosswing X2 5.0
    Axis 810 BSC 62.5 cm fuse, 86 cm mast
    Kane tail 13.5 cm
    It threatened to be good for a spell but shut down way too early. A few grand worth of wing gear out there. Windoc regaled us with Hawaiian tales.
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     Windjunky Saturday November 27, 2021
    Island View, Wingfoiling
    This year: 63
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    Log started:
    Saturday December 28, 2019
    Total records: 99
    This year: 63

    Saturday November 27, 2021 Island View, Wingfoiling
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     Island View, Wingfoiling SE 8 - 20
    cunfused
    2.00 hours Naish hover wing carbon 110
    Cabrinha cross wing 5.0
    axis PNG 1150 1778
    Hadn't been out for a couple of weeks. Was good for the first hour until the wind died down to not quite enough for the 5M and then became frustrating trying to pump up in lumpy seas. Great turnout for such a rainy day lots of wingers with some new faces.
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     uddereef Saturday November 27, 2021
    Columbia Bch, Windsurfing
    This year: 58
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    Log started:
    Sunday January 4, 2009
    Total records: 761
    This year: 58

    Saturday November 27, 2021 Columbia Bch, Windsurfing
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     Columbia Bch, Windsurfing SE 20 - 22
    1-2 footers
    2.50 hours Fanatic Freewave 115
    ezzy elite 5.3
    Missed big Thursday got small Saturday.still fun.
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     HiyoSilver Saturday November 27, 2021
    Columbia Bch, Windsurfing
    This year: 22
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    Log started:
    Friday June 13, 2014
    Total records: 253
    This year: 22

    Saturday November 27, 2021 Columbia Bch, Windsurfing
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     Columbia Bch, Windsurfing E 15 - 20
    Phlat
    1.00 hours Goya Quad 104
    Naish Force 4 5.3
    Pretty much the opposite from Thursday. Smooth, gentle breeze and no waves '?
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     tweezer Saturday November 27, 2021
    Island View, Wingfoiling
    This year: 125
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    Log started:
    Sunday April 24, 2005
    Total records: 274
    This year: 125

    Saturday November 27, 2021 Island View, Wingfoiling
     Saturday November 27, 2021 Conditions TOW Toys Used: Edit/View record
     Island View, Wingfoiling SE 12 - 16
    Swell
    1.50 hours Quatro Wing Drifter 5'4" 90L
    Takuma WK 3.5
    Airush Freewing 5.0
    Axis HPS 980 1323cm2
    Axis short fuse 68cm
    Axis mast 90cm
    Swell was fun and wind was mixed. A few first time wingers braved the conditions. Great crowd!
    GPS Track: Slippery When Wet2:01 PM to 3:29 PM
    Moving Time00:58:21
    Planing/Foiling Time 00:32:11
    Distance (km)13.4
    Speed (Max/2s/100m knots)15.3 / 15.5 / 15.5
    Number of Turns 48 (40% Planing/Foiling)
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     Mrnorthsouth Saturday November 27, 2021
    Island View, Wingfoiling
    This year: 51
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    Log started:
    Friday May 22, 2020
    Total records: 87
    This year: 51

    Saturday November 27, 2021 Island View, Wingfoiling
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     Island View, Wingfoiling SE 12 - 20
    2-3
    1.50 hours Fanatic Sky wing 5'4 95L
    F-One Strike 5
    Axis ART 999
    Took a bit to knock the rust off and considered rigging down at the start but glad I didn't. Lots of crashes but some fun rides and turns. Good to see so many people out and meet some newcomers.
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     j_dog Saturday November 27, 2021
    Island View, Kitesurfing
    This year: 43
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    Log started:
    Monday March 13, 2006
    Total records: 110
    This year: 43

    Saturday November 27, 2021 Island View, Kitesurfing
     Saturday November 27, 2021 Conditions TOW Toys Used: Edit/View record
     Island View, Kitesurfing SE 13 - 18
    2-3' swell
    1.10 hours Cabrinha Spade 5'7''
    AIRUSH WAVE 12m
    Fun Saturday afternoon session, got to IV early just as the wind of picking up, thanks to Clayton for the launch. Played around in the shore-break for a while and would have stayed a bit longer but the wind was dying. I have never seen so many wingers out which was cool to see. A rainy but fun session and warmer than expected.
    GPS Track: IV 27 Nov kiteboarding 12:59 PM to 2:18 PM
    Moving Time01:15:51
    Planing/Foiling Time 01:09:50
    Distance (km)22.7
    Speed (Max/2s/100m knots)15.8 / 15.8 / 15.2
    Number of Turns 61 (75% Planing/Foiling)
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     winddoctor Saturday November 27, 2021
    Island View, Wingfoiling
    This year: 90
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    Log started:
    Sunday August 22, 2004
    Total records: 1062
    This year: 90

    Saturday November 27, 2021 Island View, Wingfoiling
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     Island View, Wingfoiling SE 12 - 15
    Lumpy pants
    1.00 hours Armstrong FG 115 5.11
    Takuma WK 5.2
    After riding the smaller foils the last week the 1125 felt massive somehow. Got bucked off a few times, but wow is the glide and pump good. Surprisingly mild wind but very light at times (sub 10 knots). Great to see new wingers at the beach! Nice to be back in home waters even if they are a wee bit chilly.
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     bwd Saturday November 27, 2021
    Island View, Wingfoiling
    This year: 83
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    Log started:
    Tuesday July 6, 2004
    Total records: 922
    This year: 83

    Saturday November 27, 2021 Island View, Wingfoiling
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     Island View, Wingfoiling SE 12 - 16
    2-3ft
    1.20 hours Armstrong FG 4-11 60L
    Cabrinha Mantis 4.0
    Armstrong Flying V 200
    Armstrong HA 925
    Armstrong mast/fuse 85/60
    Great day for testing the low end on the small board. Well I failed that test but it will get easier I think. Fun watching everyone foiling and having fun.
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     dunkinguy Saturday November 27, 2021
    Columbia Bch, Windsurfing
    This year: 3
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    Log started:
    Sunday January 1, 2006
    Total records: 189
    This year: 3

    Saturday November 27, 2021 Columbia Bch, Windsurfing
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     Columbia Bch, Windsurfing SE 18 - 22
    Boring
    1.00 hours Simmer Flywave 92
    S2 Maui Catalyst 5.2
    Snore. Good to see a few of the crew however. How about a ripper session on the weekend. Too much to ask?
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     Bobson Saturday November 27, 2021
    Island View, Windfoiling
    This year: 148
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    Log started:
    Tuesday July 13, 2004
    Total records: 448
    This year: 148

    Saturday November 27, 2021 Island View, Windfoiling
     Saturday November 27, 2021 Conditions TOW Toys Used: Edit/View record
     Island View, Windfoiling SE 12 - 18
    The sea was Angry
    1.00 hours Starboard Freeride 125
    Sailworks Flyer 4.5
    Starboard Front wing 1100
    Starboard Fuse 115+
    Starboard Stabilizer 255
    Starboard Mast 85cm
    Arrived at 1:30pm to 12-15kts and lots of waves. More waves than wind. Chatted with BW and he inspired me to head out as I was waffling. I think he might have said 'just get out there bitch!' So I did. Mr. N+S was just heading out and was ripping. So I took my 4.5m Flyer and made it through the shore real thankfully! It was definitely a WING day. I counted 12 Wings out on the water at one time and still a couple on the beach with a couple of Kites and me on my Wind-Foil apparently one of the last holdou ... (more)
    GPS Track: IV - Big Waves1:52 PM to 2:44 PM
    Moving Time00:45:18
    Planing/Foiling Time 00:27:49
    Distance (km)12.3
    Speed (Max/2s/100m knots)18.1 / 18.1 / 17.3
    Number of Turns 27 (33% Planing/Foiling)
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     KUS Thursday November 25, 2021
    Home, Windsurfing
    This year: 43
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    Log started:
    Sunday October 17, 2004
    Total records: 1633
    This year: 43

    Thursday November 25, 2021 Home, Windsurfing
     Thursday November 25, 2021 Conditions TOW Toys Used: Edit/View record
     Home, Windsurfing ESE 30 - 36
    Total crapchop, 2-3ft
    3.20 hours
    3.7, 85 combo, started to be underpowered so rigged 4.2, wind amped 10 knots, grr. A few one handers on the waves, loads of hole-douches, eye of the storm gybes into calmness, plunk? go figure! dentalwork choppy, cross chop or split waves every run but a couple smooth but small ones :( most wind, least waves, most chop = probably worst top 3 windiest session ever umphh.

    Sail fun because of OG company/crew only 5 wave 4 jump 2

    Less please!
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     winddoctor Thursday November 25, 2021
    Low Kanaha (?), Wingfoiling
    This year: 90
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    Log started:
    Sunday August 22, 2004
    Total records: 1062
    This year: 90

    Thursday November 25, 2021 Low Kanaha (?), Wingfoiling
     Thursday November 25, 2021 Conditions TOW Toys Used: Edit/View record
     Low Kanaha (?), Wingfoiling NE 20 - 22
    3-5' inside, big out
    1.50 hours Quatro Wing Drifter Pro 90 5.4
    Hotsais Maui KS Spider 5.2
    Armstrong HA 925
    OK, last torture post. Busy morning getting Kevin sorted on foil and he finally had good success. Finished his inaugural wing foiling trip on a high note. Swell was absolutely macking so we went to Hookipa to check. Yep, HUGE surf. Camille Juban packing up after an unsuccessful attempt. Peahi likely happening too. Went to Kuau and watched Russ session the huge outside solo while Vickey eventually committed. We packed up and headed back to lower Kanaha and I got the 4m, 925 and Quatro 90 out in more reasonab ... (more)
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     Tsawwassen Thursday November 25, 2021
    Boundary Bay 3rd Ave, Wingfoiling
    This year: 62
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    Log started:
    Wednesday December 19, 2012
    Total records: 460
    This year: 62

    Thursday November 25, 2021 Boundary Bay 3rd Ave, Wingfoiling
     Thursday November 25, 2021 Conditions TOW Toys Used: Edit/View record
     Boundary Bay 3rd Ave, Wingfoiling ESE 20 - 30
    small waves
    1.50 hours AK Phazer 110
    Airush Freewing 5.0
    Moses Onda Surf 790 82 cm/790/450
    Challenging day! Wind picked up just as I arrived and I was way overpowered by the time I made my first reach. Lots of debris and weeds made things worse. Being over powered while trying to dodge chunks of wood is not fun, hit lots of small ones with the foil but no damage. Had a few nice wave rides but went too far down past Centennial, the rest of the session was just trying to make it back to the beach in one piece. Think a 3.7 day at Columbia Beach would have been a bit better!
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