Quad Fin Review - Quatro 95L Starboard 92L
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Re: Quads
Yeah I'm in ... but I'm not buyin' no Quad. If I can't sail it with one "thruster" it weren't meant for me to sail. Goya One here I come!KC7777 wrote:Hey,
I had some ankle/fitness issues this Spring. But in 2013 I plan to be leading (or following) a pack of scared newbie wave on their first Oregon trip. So if I am too scared to sail at least I have someone to drink with.
.....mtm is in!
Likely last week of June and first week of July 2013?
Keith
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My buddy Sean in Hood River gets a new custom Quatro about every season, and his standing request is "send me the latest and greatest". This year Keith sent him a tri-fin. He figured he'd probably run a single fin in the Gorge and add the thrusters on the coast. Last I heard he was pretty happy with it.
In answer to KC's annual wave board/ Oregon Coast trip post:
For mostly lake sailing, with a coast trip, go with the Fanatic freewave tri. I had a freewave 87 and the board was great. Super fast, planes up easily and good in the waves too. Tri fins should just make it looser in small waves. I have sailed a tri fin and it is a good compromise between the quad and single fin.
On the other hand, I just came off a week on the 92 Goya quad. Can't think of a negative. Great in the waves, pops onto a plane in a jiffy. Good upwind. Also had it going mach 2 in nasty chop conditions (wind chop perpendicular to small ocean swell) on a 4.5, a la the Nat. Uncannily smooth. I have been wondering how Kus can handle his 92 L Goya quad in big winds and now I know.
Now that you have made a coast commitment, your fear factor would be greatly reduced by going to CB and learning how to wave sail in friendlier conditions. So get a board now and see you at CB!
For mostly lake sailing, with a coast trip, go with the Fanatic freewave tri. I had a freewave 87 and the board was great. Super fast, planes up easily and good in the waves too. Tri fins should just make it looser in small waves. I have sailed a tri fin and it is a good compromise between the quad and single fin.
On the other hand, I just came off a week on the 92 Goya quad. Can't think of a negative. Great in the waves, pops onto a plane in a jiffy. Good upwind. Also had it going mach 2 in nasty chop conditions (wind chop perpendicular to small ocean swell) on a 4.5, a la the Nat. Uncannily smooth. I have been wondering how Kus can handle his 92 L Goya quad in big winds and now I know.
Now that you have made a coast commitment, your fear factor would be greatly reduced by going to CB and learning how to wave sail in friendlier conditions. So get a board now and see you at CB!
Quad or tri
Hey Ralph, I guess 3rd year in a row of making this type of post qualifes as "annual"eastside wrote:In answer to KC's annual wave board/ Oregon Coast trip post:
Gonna research a bit more.....quad or tri.....85L or 95L.
I hear ya on the CB thing this fall/winter. If mtm would ever invite me over to stay at his eastside island palace then I may come over this fall.
Keith
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Tri-fins
Hey,
Just noticed that the Goya Ones are tri-fins in the smaller sizes of the Pro version (86L, 76L and 72L). When did that happen?
http://goyawindsurfing.com/boards/items/y2012/one-pro/
Tri fins available from Fanatic, JP, Starboard, Goya, Quatro.....I think 3 is the new 4. Makes a lot of sense to me as you can run it as a single in the Gorge or at Nitinat?
Plus I kind of want something different. Saw lots of quads at the Lake this past weekend.
Leaning to a 80L -85L Tri-fin board (approx 57-58cm width) and a 100L- 105L Freestyle Wave board (approx. 62-64cm width) for next year.
Really liking the Fanatic FreeWave 85L (which is now a Tri in 2013) or the new Fanatic TriWave 86L.
K
Just noticed that the Goya Ones are tri-fins in the smaller sizes of the Pro version (86L, 76L and 72L). When did that happen?
http://goyawindsurfing.com/boards/items/y2012/one-pro/
Tri fins available from Fanatic, JP, Starboard, Goya, Quatro.....I think 3 is the new 4. Makes a lot of sense to me as you can run it as a single in the Gorge or at Nitinat?
Plus I kind of want something different. Saw lots of quads at the Lake this past weekend.
Leaning to a 80L -85L Tri-fin board (approx 57-58cm width) and a 100L- 105L Freestyle Wave board (approx. 62-64cm width) for next year.
Really liking the Fanatic FreeWave 85L (which is now a Tri in 2013) or the new Fanatic TriWave 86L.
K
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Re: Tri-fins
How 'bout a uni-fin then?KC7777 wrote:
...Plus I kind of want something different...
Poultry in motion
Maui past May-June I used JP Quad for first 5 days or so and then JP thruster (tri) for next 9. My home boards are JP Wave & FSW single fins 2010. Serious winds and waves were to be had.
Feeling - Thruster by far the preference, if used locally would ride it most likely 80% of the time as a single fin and 20% as tri-fin set-up. Never had true cross-off conditions but never hesitated going for bottom turns and felt better off the top with thruster than Quad. Strongly considering adding the two little fins to all mine as a winter project.
With limited wave time, thruster should be preferred IMHO. Interestingly enough - in clinic Matt P, McGain and Buzianis all said they would use singles to those who asked about going to quads.
Really now - just go to Maui and try all three types, then buy!
Feeling - Thruster by far the preference, if used locally would ride it most likely 80% of the time as a single fin and 20% as tri-fin set-up. Never had true cross-off conditions but never hesitated going for bottom turns and felt better off the top with thruster than Quad. Strongly considering adding the two little fins to all mine as a winter project.
With limited wave time, thruster should be preferred IMHO. Interestingly enough - in clinic Matt P, McGain and Buzianis all said they would use singles to those who asked about going to quads.
Really now - just go to Maui and try all three types, then buy!
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When did a fin or skeg become a "thruster"?
"A thruster is a small propulsive device used by spacecraft and watercraft for station keeping, attitude control, in the reaction control system, or long-duration, low-thrust acceleration.".
I think Ron Jeremy was a thruster too. Um ....
"A thruster is a small propulsive device used by spacecraft and watercraft for station keeping, attitude control, in the reaction control system, or long-duration, low-thrust acceleration.".
I think Ron Jeremy was a thruster too. Um ....
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Re: Tri-fins
You realize these are wave boards right Keith?KC7777 wrote:Hey,
Just noticed that the Goya Ones are tri-fins in the smaller sizes of the Pro version (86L, 76L and 72L). When did that happen?
http://goyawindsurfing.com/boards/items/y2012/one-pro/
Tri fins available from Fanatic, JP, Starboard, Goya, Quatro.....I think 3 is the new 4. Makes a lot of sense to me as you can run it as a single in the Gorge or at Nitinat?
Plus I kind of want something different. Saw lots of quads at the Lake this past weekend.
Leaning to a 80L -85L Tri-fin board (approx 57-58cm width) and a 100L- 105L Freestyle Wave board (approx. 62-64cm width) for next year.
Really liking the Fanatic FreeWave 85L (which is now a Tri in 2013) or the new Fanatic TriWave 86L.
K
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Re: Tri-fins
Mike,
Fins = skegs
Thruster = a three fin board.....I stole this from somewhere:
the Tri-fin (also known as Thruster) is featured with three fins underneath the tail rather than the traditional single fin. The Tri-fin's additional two fins on the board allows riders better turning capabilities as well as greater thrust than classic longboards did back in the 1950s.
Nanmoo,
....was that sarcasm? Nice. I actually I expected a more derogatory, insulting, "you haven't sailed until you've been to the Coast crap" kind of response instead of the subtle "you know those are waveboards".....I think you are maturing right before our eyes.
Fins = skegs
Thruster = a three fin board.....I stole this from somewhere:
the Tri-fin (also known as Thruster) is featured with three fins underneath the tail rather than the traditional single fin. The Tri-fin's additional two fins on the board allows riders better turning capabilities as well as greater thrust than classic longboards did back in the 1950s.
Nanmoo,
....was that sarcasm? Nice. I actually I expected a more derogatory, insulting, "you haven't sailed until you've been to the Coast crap" kind of response instead of the subtle "you know those are waveboards".....I think you are maturing right before our eyes.
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And the 5 fin is a Bonzer! Where will it end??
"NAISH PRODUCT MANAGER: MICHI SCHWEIGER
Michi Schweiger believes Thrusters are the perfect solution for allround waveboard performance - no matter if you're used to Quads, Singles or TwinFins. In fact Naish have gambled that giving you extra value for money in one board and letting dealers only risk stocking one model is best. Sounds good. Read on for more."
http://www.windsurfermag.com/magazine/w ... w2M3wxNjc=
"NAISH PRODUCT MANAGER: MICHI SCHWEIGER
Michi Schweiger believes Thrusters are the perfect solution for allround waveboard performance - no matter if you're used to Quads, Singles or TwinFins. In fact Naish have gambled that giving you extra value for money in one board and letting dealers only risk stocking one model is best. Sounds good. Read on for more."
http://www.windsurfermag.com/magazine/w ... w2M3wxNjc=
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