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     kitesurferdale Thursday September 7, 2006
    Nitinat Lk, Kitesurfing
    This Year: 0
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    Log Started:
    Friday July 16, 2004
    Total Records: 143
    This Year: 0

    Thursday September 7, 2006 Nitinat Lk, Kitesurfing
     Thursday September 7, 2006 Conditions TOW Toys Used: Edit/View record
     Nitinat Lk, Kitesurfing WNW 15 - 20
    chop
    2.00 hours Ocean Rodeo Zen 136
    Ocean Rodeo Bronce 16m
    Ocean Rodeo Session Harness
    Started out light, but then began to fill in to a semi steady wind. Decent day all around. Just playin around all day.
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     j_dog Wednesday September 6, 2006
    Nitinat Lk, Kitesurfing
    This Year: 53
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    Log Started:
    Monday March 13, 2006
    Total Records: 293
    This Year: 53

    Wednesday September 6, 2006 Nitinat Lk, Kitesurfing
     Wednesday September 6, 2006 Conditions TOW Toys Used: Edit/View record
     Nitinat Lk, Kitesurfing WNW 20 - 25
    2' swell
    3.00 hours RRD Triple X 132
    Slingshot Fuel 8m
    Ocean Rodeo Punch-out
    Wow it was strong today, tried lots of jumps but maybe landed one! Nice to meet Rudy from Idaho.
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     KUS Wednesday September 6, 2006
    Nitinat Lk, Windsurfing
    This Year: 62
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    Log Started:
    Sunday October 17, 2004
    Total Records: 1824
    This Year: 62

    Wednesday September 6, 2006 Nitinat Lk, Windsurfing
     Wednesday September 6, 2006 Conditions TOW Toys Used: Edit/View record
     Nitinat Lk, Windsurfing W 22 - 28
    some 2-3'wavelets
    5.00 hours Starboard Free 87 87L
    Gaastra Manic 5.3
    Sailworks Revo 4.8
    On the Manic only 1/2 hr, downhauled to max, then 4.8, couldda been on 4.2 at times (if I'd brought it along :roll: ) Who knew?? One of best days at the Lake ever, playing near Nat River mouth in wavelet, nice lOoooooong day sailing. Header with the bike just b4 heading out didn't help my aching body :twisted: That Maui Northshore racefin ripped, awesome day :!:

    Sail 9 Wave 7 Jump 6
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     Johnnyman Wednesday September 6, 2006
    Nitinat Lk, Windsurfing
    This Year: 0
    Johnnyman



    Log Started:
    Monday August 21, 2006
    Total Records: 203
    This Year: 0

    Wednesday September 6, 2006 Nitinat Lk, Windsurfing
     Wednesday September 6, 2006 Conditions TOW Toys Used: Edit/View record
     Nitinat Lk, Windsurfing SW 20 - 30
    swellish
    5.50 hours Mistral Syncro Fish 83 L
    Gaastra Manic 5.7
    Ezzy SE 5.0
    :D Another great nitnat day. Out on the fish and 5.7 at 1230 and was way overpowered by 0100. Spent a couple of hours with Kuz down by nitnat river with some good swellies. Went back down for a couple of hours by myself down to 100 m from the end of the lake and it set up nicely. On my way back the wind went from powered up 5.0 to nothing and had to swim back to the village half and hour coulden't even body drag. As soon as I got back to the beach the wind turned on and I was powered on the 5.0 again a co ... (more)
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     kitesurferdale Wednesday September 6, 2006
    Nitinat Lk, Kitesurfing
    This Year: 0
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    Log Started:
    Friday July 16, 2004
    Total Records: 143
    This Year: 0

    Wednesday September 6, 2006 Nitinat Lk, Kitesurfing
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     Nitinat Lk, Kitesurfing WNW 22 - 26
    chop/wave
    2.00 hours Ocean Rodeo Zen 136
    Ocean Rodeo Bronco 12m
    Ocean Rodeo Session Harness
    Stayed on the 12 all day, had fun rippin around, heading way up wind with mary, that was cool, tho the legs were burnin. Still trying the forward roll, kite downloop thingy with no success, pissn me off. Did throw some larger jumps with forward rolls added in, prob the highest spins I have done, so that was cool
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     Kite Kook Wednesday September 6, 2006
    Cook Street, Kitesurfing
    This Year: 0
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    Log Started:
    Tuesday July 13, 2004
    Total Records: 202
    This Year: 0

    Wednesday September 6, 2006 Cook Street, Kitesurfing
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     Cook Street, Kitesurfing SSW 15 - 18
    mild chop and flat in RB
    1.50 hours GMac San Special 139
    Ocean Rodeo ONE 12m
    What a beautiful day! Wind came in very quickly. Enjoyed the bay for with the regular crew before heading off to Ross Bay with Tom. Wind started to get a little wierd, and so came back only to see kites falling. Did my best to get close to shore, and lucked out with the tide/wind. Actually enjoyed(!) my swim in with the sun on my face, as the current brought me west. Cheers to Erik for coming to check on me and seeing Tom, who was much farther out and for whom the coast guard came to watch him swim in. :) A ... (more)
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     downwind dave Wednesday September 6, 2006
    lake n, Windsurfing
    This Year: 8
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    Log Started:
    Sunday July 18, 2004
    Total Records: 262
    This Year: 8

    Wednesday September 6, 2006 lake n, Windsurfing
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     lake n, Windsurfing NE 22 - 28
    wavy
    2.00 hours RRD wave swallow 78l
    Ezzy SE Wave 4.7
    a bit more up and down than yesterday but a lot more waves. cloudy forecast for tomorrow, thats probably done for the year. for me anyway.
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     colin Wednesday September 6, 2006
    Cook Street, Kitesurfing
    This Year: 0
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    Log Started:
    Saturday October 30, 2004
    Total Records: 219
    This Year: 0

    Wednesday September 6, 2006 Cook Street, Kitesurfing
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     Cook Street, Kitesurfing S 17 - 19
    chop
    1.00 hours airush xpact 127
    airush lift 14
    great day, pretty south, lots of fog. headed up to ogden pt and then way offshore exposing myself a little, no gear failure though. nice airs, wind was a bit funky.
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     JL Wednesday September 6, 2006
    Gordons, Kitesurfing
    This Year: 0
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    Log Started:
    Thursday July 22, 2004
    Total Records: 999
    This Year: 0

    Wednesday September 6, 2006 Gordons, Kitesurfing
     Wednesday September 6, 2006 Conditions TOW Toys Used: Edit/View record
     Gordons, Kitesurfing W 15 - 20
    Smooth with a 2' swell.
    2.00 hours Ocean Rodeo Mako 150
    Ocean Rodeo 'ONE' 12M
    Sweet 'ONE' session...Looks like Kook had the same wind. Giles out learning on his 12m Diablo. Must be like learning to drive on a Ferrari.
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     Mattdog Wednesday September 6, 2006
    Eagle Bluff, Nanaimo, Kitesurfing
    This Year: 0
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    Log Started:
    Friday September 10, 2004
    Total Records: 211
    This Year: 0

    Wednesday September 6, 2006 Eagle Bluff, Nanaimo, Kitesurfing
     Wednesday September 6, 2006 Conditions TOW Toys Used: Edit/View record
     Eagle Bluff, Nanaimo, Kitesurfing NNW 13 - 18
    chop small swell
    2.00 hours Aggression Kiteboard 128x39
    Ocean Rodeo Diablo 14
    Classic north Nanaimo/Caribbean conditions. Breaking swell, speed ponds, steady wind. My best session in a while. I switched from 26 to 23m lines. Wow what a huge difference in turning speed. I can't say enough good about the 14 Diablo - its a dream kite.

    Snapper was looking awesome on the skimboard and 12m kite.
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     j_dog Tuesday September 5, 2006
    Nitinat Lk, Kitesurfing
    This Year: 53
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    Log Started:
    Monday March 13, 2006
    Total Records: 293
    This Year: 53

    Tuesday September 5, 2006 Nitinat Lk, Kitesurfing
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     Nitinat Lk, Kitesurfing WSW 18 - 22
    2' swell
    3.50 hours RRD Triple X 132
    Slingshot Fuel 8m
    Ocean Rodeo Punch-out
    Good to get back on the water after a long break, good times on the 8m.
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     kitesurferdale Tuesday September 5, 2006
    Nitinat Lk, Kitesurfing
    This Year: 0
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    Log Started:
    Friday July 16, 2004
    Total Records: 143
    This Year: 0

    Tuesday September 5, 2006 Nitinat Lk, Kitesurfing
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     Nitinat Lk, Kitesurfing NW 18 - 22
    chop
    3.00 hours Ocean Rodeo Zen 136
    Ocean Rodeo Bronco 12m
    Ocean Rodeo Bronce 16m
    Ocean Rodeo Session Harness
    Not a good day for me. Tryin a railey, hit the release on the chicken loop, 16 flared and then the bar rode all the way to the kite, no chance of relaunch. Set up again, sailed abit, then decided to loop it :evil: , yeh, landed it with moocho speed, but the tip of the kite hit the water, then funny thing happened, with my speed up, I pass my kite on the water, never had that happen, so it does the death roll downwind, lines so messed up had to beach it again :oops: . So decide to do low level stuff on ... (more)
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     downwind dave Tuesday September 5, 2006
    lake n, Windsurfing
    This Year: 8
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    Log Started:
    Sunday July 18, 2004
    Total Records: 262
    This Year: 8

    Tuesday September 5, 2006 lake n, Windsurfing
     Tuesday September 5, 2006 Conditions TOW Toys Used: Edit/View record
     lake n, Windsurfing NE 24 - 28
    chops
    2.50 hours RRD wave swallow 78l
    Ezzy SE Wave 4.7
    gath yellow lid L
    :D awesome evening on the new stick. im thinking my next son will be "roberto"
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     KUS Tuesday September 5, 2006
    Nitinat Lk, Windsurfing
    This Year: 62
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    Log Started:
    Sunday October 17, 2004
    Total Records: 1824
    This Year: 62

    Tuesday September 5, 2006 Nitinat Lk, Windsurfing
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     Nitinat Lk, Windsurfing W 16 - 22
    Nat Flat
    2.30 hours Naish Supercross 257 94L
    Gaastra Manic 5.3
    megawave 28
    Beauty sunny, hot day, hit water at 3. Water cooling already tho, still in shorty but feeling the fall :D Solid 5.3 for 1 hrs, then 1hr only in center of lake, then marginal, never got to kite, dropped too fast @6. Johnnyman makin da Mistral work, he's getting sooo much better balance & gybewise, I think he hardly got wet 8) I monkeyed & tack practiced (poorly today, helis worked better :roll: )

    Sail 7 Wave 3 Jump 4

    Got here in one piece, sort of, road worst I've ever seen up to Kissinger, t ... (more)
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     Johnnyman Tuesday September 5, 2006
    Nitinat Lk, Windsurfing
    This Year: 0
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    Log Started:
    Monday August 21, 2006
    Total Records: 203
    This Year: 0

    Tuesday September 5, 2006 Nitinat Lk, Windsurfing
     Tuesday September 5, 2006 Conditions TOW Toys Used: Edit/View record
     Nitinat Lk, Windsurfing WSW 15 - 20
    2 ft swellies
    2.80 hours Mistral Syncro Fish 83 L
    Gaastra Manic 5.7
    Fishy fishy fishy fun fun fun :D :D :D !!! First day on the new board and it is fantastic :D :D . Can't wait to try it in the ocean. First hour and a half powered up on the 5.7 and having a great time on the swellies with the supper turny board. Easy to plane BWD you likey. Great September day Kuz pulled off a perfect monkey. Windoc's borrowed fin worked great. Last 1/2 hour schlogging practice near shore. Today looks good big fog bank.
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     colin Monday September 4, 2006
    Cook Street, Kitesurfing
    This Year: 0
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    Log Started:
    Saturday October 30, 2004
    Total Records: 219
    This Year: 0

    Monday September 4, 2006 Cook Street, Kitesurfing
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     Cook Street, Kitesurfing SW 15 - 18
    calm and confused
    1.50 hours airush xpact 127
    airush lift 14
    a nice STAT holiday. School starts this week, I wish I could go back to first year again.
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     KUS Monday September 4, 2006
    Cook Street, Windsurfing
    This Year: 62
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    Log Started:
    Sunday October 17, 2004
    Total Records: 1824
    This Year: 62

    Monday September 4, 2006 Cook Street, Windsurfing
     Monday September 4, 2006 Conditions TOW Toys Used: Edit/View record
     Cook Street, Windsurfing SW 15 - 18
    tidal chop, swell 3'
    2.10 hours Angulo Jesus Loves You, Chango 95L
    Sailworks Revo 5.8
    megawave 28
    Had to skip Gordo's for house chores, gyproc success :twisted: I did envy you guys but got some Zen time too. Started off lame, then the big bad kiters all left & wind came on. Rigged on strength of model and it paid off late :D Nice rolling smooth faces, what a blast! Magical nite, sun setting behind mountains, moon rising, sailing til dark, what an amazing place we live in!! 8) Still got that extra harness, it ain't Nate's afterall, someone missing one?

    Sail 7 Wave 6 Jump 6
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     Windsurfish Monday September 4, 2006
    Nitinat Lk, Windsurfing
    This Year: 6
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    Log Started:
    Saturday January 22, 2005
    Total Records: 1145
    This Year: 6

    Monday September 4, 2006 Nitinat Lk, Windsurfing
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     Nitinat Lk, Windsurfing SW 25 - 30
    3-4' ramps
    3.50 hours Hi-Fly Move 95
    Ezzy SE Wave 4.5
    :D :D :D :D 1/2

    Nukinat prevails. Suprising wind at this time in the season at the lake. Arrived after a nice breakfast to see Ozzy cranking some forwards on the lake. Rigged the 4.5 / 95L and had an excellent session with some decent chop/hop/jumps. Nice way to spend my birthday!!!

    :D :D :D :D 1/2
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     Starboard Steve Monday September 4, 2006
    Nitinat Lk, Windsurfing
    This Year: 0
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    Log Started:
    Tuesday July 13, 2004
    Total Records: 68
    This Year: 0

    Monday September 4, 2006 Nitinat Lk, Windsurfing
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     Nitinat Lk, Windsurfing SW 25 - 30
    1m swell
    5.00 hours Pro-Tech Wave 75l 256
    Sailworks Revolution 5.0
    Sailworks Revolution 4.4
    Wow! Excellent day. Huge swell (for Nitinat) made for some nice cut backs and lofty chop hops.
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     Barb W Monday September 4, 2006
    Nitinat Lk, Windsurfing
    This Year: 0
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    Log Started:
    Monday August 21, 2006
    Total Records: 6
    This Year: 0

    Monday September 4, 2006 Nitinat Lk, Windsurfing
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     Nitinat Lk, Windsurfing WSW 20 - 30
    3-4ft Nitinat swell
    3.00 hours F2 Maui Project 70ltr
    Ezzy Wave
    Another fun weekend. Sat. just a little breeze, Sun. better, Monday was the big day. Woke up to fog starting to burn off so rigged the 4.0. Just pure fun and a little insane when the wind was peaking. :o
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     windwoman Monday September 4, 2006
    Nitinat Lk, Windsurfing
    This Year: 0
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    Log Started:
    Tuesday April 4, 2006
    Total Records: 42
    This Year: 0

    Monday September 4, 2006 Nitinat Lk, Windsurfing
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     Nitinat Lk, Windsurfing W 20 - 30
    wild with 3-4 ft ramps
    2.00 hours starboard surfwood 70
    sailworks revolution 4.8
    sailworks revolution 4.2
    Sure enough all the signs predicted another Nuclear Monday. Pure Joy.......I thought I'd missed them for this year!! I rigged the 4.2 for insurance and headed out on the lake with the Surfwood and 4.8 Revo. An hour later, completely OP, I was scrambling back to the beach for the 4.2. Spent the rest of the afternoon trying to keep the board on the water and not in the air!! Never even considered packing a smaller sail this time of year!!
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     Bobson Monday September 4, 2006
    Ross Bay, Windsurfing
    This Year: 152
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    Log Started:
    Tuesday July 13, 2004
    Total Records: 920
    This Year: 152

    Monday September 4, 2006 Ross Bay, Windsurfing
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     Ross Bay, Windsurfing SW 15 - 22
    Rollie Pollie
    2.00 hours Starboard Formula Experience 156
    Severne Overdrive 8.5
    :D Arrived at 2, not enough, went for an hour workout, then came back by 4pm and it was picking up. Rigged up and out on the water by 4:30pm and planed the whole time. Amazing wind at the end. Made huge long runs out and back, probably 5 minute runs out sooooo flippin far. Wind was most amazing, mostly flat with some small rolling swell which was fun to catch a bit of air off while going at Mach 1 on the BIG GEAR!! YAHOO! :D
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     Kite Kook Monday September 4, 2006
    Cook Street, Kitesurfing
    This Year: 0
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    Log Started:
    Tuesday July 13, 2004
    Total Records: 202
    This Year: 0

    Monday September 4, 2006 Cook Street, Kitesurfing
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     Cook Street, Kitesurfing SW 17 - 22
    chop then better
    1.50 hours GMac San Special 139
    Ocean Rodeo ONE 12m
    Nice to get out with Rudy et al. Wind was not perfect, but got some good lift for a while and tried some different boards (thanks Ty). Awesome to see this kind of wind in September, 12m ONE was perfect for today. :D
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     more force 4 Monday September 4, 2006
    Nitinat Lk, Windsurfing
    This Year: 37
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    Log Started:
    Tuesday July 13, 2004
    Total Records: 1006
    This Year: 37

    Monday September 4, 2006 Nitinat Lk, Windsurfing
     Monday September 4, 2006 Conditions TOW Toys Used: Edit/View record
     Nitinat Lk, Windsurfing WSW 20 - 30
    3-4ish ft, swellets
    4.00 hours Hyfly Free 266 108
    Seatrend Accelerator 89
    Ezzy Wave 5.0
    Ezzy Wave 5.8
    A couple of pump-to-plane runs on the big gear, then switched down to little board. The fog last night indeed made for a classic day. Way OP 4.5 for much of the last while, could have sheeted in a bit if I'd rigged 4.0. Planed through a few gybes earlier and made most of them dry even in the biggest wind, first time ever. My most successful day ever in big wind! :lol: :lol: :lol: Waves looked biggest yet while packing, superb conditions for the lucky ones staying over!
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     winddoctor Monday September 4, 2006
    Nitinat Lk, Windsurfing
    This Year: 82
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    Log Started:
    Sunday August 22, 2004
    Total Records: 1320
    This Year: 82

    Monday September 4, 2006 Nitinat Lk, Windsurfing
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     Nitinat Lk, Windsurfing W 20 - 27
    2-3' ramps-sweet!
    4.00 hours Wind Obsession Fish 92 L 7'8"
    Ezzy Wave SE 5.0
    Hotsails Maui Superfreak Rasta 5.5
    :D :D :D Mackin' fogbank the night previous set the stage for a fantastic Monday session. Dog barfing in the tent Sunday nite (another camper's potatoe salad) ruined the anticipation a bit. Started out on 5.5, then eased into a maxed out 5.0. Should have brought the Evo. Dang. Best Nitinat session I've had. Steep sizable ramps for most of the day made looping better than ever for me at the Lake. Landed 2 dry. Made a few decent shuvits, crashed too many to count. Stoked! Ozy and John were going off, throw ... (more)
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     BigD Monday September 4, 2006
    Ross Bay, Windsurfing
    This Year: 11
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    Log Started:
    Monday July 12, 2004
    Total Records: 265
    This Year: 11

    Monday September 4, 2006 Ross Bay, Windsurfing
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     Ross Bay, Windsurfing SW 15 - 22
    Flatish
    2.00 hours Starboard GO 190L
    Sailworks Retro 8.0
    8) Warm and flat. Nice 2 hour sesh on the big gear. Sailed into cook st beach and promply turned around due to kelp bed. Fun sailing with Bobson and Bruce.
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     bwd Monday September 4, 2006
    Gordons, Windsurfing
    This Year: 70
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    Log Started:
    Tuesday July 6, 2004
    Total Records: 1130
    This Year: 70

    Monday September 4, 2006 Gordons, Windsurfing
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     Gordons, Windsurfing W 20 - 28
    2-3ft @ 2s
    2.40 hours Starboard Evo 70 228cm
    Ezzy SE 4.0
    Yep a classic 4.0 September day at Gordo's :roll: Good fun. Lots of chop and wind on the inside and some smooth swell at times on the outside but lighter wind. Counted 18 wsurfers and 4 kites out. Morewind hucking some nice fwds, other Mike going for backs.
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     Russian Dood Monday September 4, 2006
    Gordons, Windsurfing
    This Year: 0
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    Log Started:
    Tuesday July 6, 2004
    Total Records: 415
    This Year: 0

    Monday September 4, 2006 Gordons, Windsurfing
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     Gordons, Windsurfing WSW 20 - 30
    chop/swell
    2.00 hours Starboard Evo 70L 229cm
    Ezzy Wave 4.0
    pretty good for September.

    whole bunch of guys were out. BWD is looping and "showiting". Morewind is leaning new move "frontloop into volcan". Wingnut is flying aroud lilke a rocket.

    Good fun.
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     Wingnut Monday September 4, 2006
    Gordons, Windsurfing
    This Year: 0
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    Log Started:
    Tuesday October 5, 2004
    Total Records: 416
    This Year: 0

    Monday September 4, 2006 Gordons, Windsurfing
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     Gordons, Windsurfing W 20 - 30
    3-5' swell, choppy later
    2.00 hours Starboard Acid 77 8'1"
    Ezzy SE Wave 4.7
    :D That was a fun sesh, especially the first hour. Very powered on the 4.7 on the outside with nice big smooth rollers 1/4 mile from shore. Some of the guys were on 3.6- 4.0 sails the whole time. Rudy broke his mast later on - luckily he was fairly close to shore and got a tow in by JD I believe. Too bad it got choppy later on. That was my 5th. Monday in a row at Gordo's and the first time I've ever had a 30 kt. day in Sept. :D Good turnout today: At one point I counted 14 WS but there were probably ab ... (more)
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     morewind Monday September 4, 2006
    Gordons, Windsurfing
    This Year: 0
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    Log Started:
    Wednesday July 7, 2004
    Total Records: 294
    This Year: 0

    Monday September 4, 2006 Gordons, Windsurfing
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     Gordons, Windsurfing WNW 22 - 27
    1' to 3' mixed bag
    2.50 hours Starboard Evo 74
    Ezzy Wave SE 4.2
    :D mid-summer conditions in Sept :D some good rolling swell at first, cruel chop nearer shore. a few fun forwards on the outside, and my best upwind 360 ever on the Evo :) great turnout. BWD loopin' and shuvin' all over the gordos playground. Asscrack looking hateful on his bow kite. RD providing coaching on the forward into vulcan move. Great Sept day :!:
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