Wingfoiling Progression

grantmac · Post by **grantmac** » Tue Feb 09, 2021 5:45 am

winddoctor wrote:
grantmac wrote:https://youtu.be/g0etT71d6AM
I like the ease of that start. Footstraps look like an advantage there.

I think straps and a small board are mandatory along with possibly a foil that is neutral or negatively buoyant.
The movement seems similar to a waterstart in that you tuck the feet under. It seems like it'll take quite a lot of wind though but maybe that's just par for the course in using a sinker.

juandesooka · Post by **juandesooka** » Tue Feb 09, 2021 8:01 am

grantmac wrote:
winddoctor wrote:
grantmac wrote:https://youtu.be/g0etT71d6AM
I like the ease of that start. Footstraps look like an advantage there.
I think straps and a small board are mandatory along with possibly a foil that is neutral or negatively buoyant.
The movement seems similar to a waterstart in that you tuck the feet under. It seems like it'll take quite a lot of wind though but maybe that's just par for the course in using a sinker.

The one day I tried, probably not even close to windy enough. I found it super awkward to get wind in the wing to lift me out. I moved on from windsurfing right at the time of learning waterstarts, but in my brief experience, the mast and boom gives something solid to hang onto. Holding on to straps on an inflated strut felt less positive a connection. Maybe easier to learn with a boom?

slake · Post by **slake** » Wed Feb 10, 2021 11:30 am

Regarding waist leashes for a board would people use a coily one like this https://www.armstrongfoils.com/waist-leash-1/ or is that asking to yank the board and foil back at you? Other one I see in a few spots is https://www.northshoreinc.com/store/pc/ ... category=0 . There is a video there showing adapting a straight leash, removing the ankle strap, and putting it on that NSI belt (ie. both wing and board leash going to the belt).

What other belt/waist leash solutions are people using?

UnusuallyLargeRobin · Wed Feb 10, 2021 11:50 am

From pg1. "I've used a waist reel leash for the board since day one and highly recommend to all" I've also recently started attaching my wing leash to the waist strap. Blue Planet has a complete system, the others you maybe need to jimmy with a bit

https://www.blueplanetsurf.com/retracta ... -cord.html

https://www.mackiteboarding.com/oceanus ... ard-leash/

winddoctor · Post by **winddoctor** » Wed Feb 10, 2021 1:05 pm

I was about to order the reel leash from Blue Planet via Amazon. $200 buckeroos to Canada. Ouch. Any other sources for less bucks?

Tsawwassen · Post by **Tsawwassen** » Wed Feb 10, 2021 2:13 pm

smartang wrote:Also, I like everything about the armstrong boards, don't even care that they're as expensive as a custom. But no bottom carry handle is a 100% deal breaker if you want to keep your foil and wing from touching anything other than air or water. Especially each other.

If anyone is thinking custom Roberts is now making wing boards. I saw one out here in Boundary Bay the other day.

https://www.facebook.com/robertscomposi ... 645888811/

AJSpencer · Post by **AJSpencer** » Wed Feb 10, 2021 2:38 pm

Nice. I like that high quality, handmade look of the Roberts boards. Well designed and well built.

juandesooka · Post by **juandesooka** » Wed Feb 10, 2021 5:58 pm

winddoctor wrote:I was about to order the reel leash from Blue Planet via Amazon. $200 buckeroos to Canada. Ouch. Any other sources for less bucks?

Couple canadian options
https://shop.ikite.ca/product/oceanus-r ... ard-leash/

https://www.boardsports.ca/oceanus-eel- ... leash.html

You can also ship to seawings in blaine, $18 to get it to YYJ. Worth when higher priced item where shipping is prohibitive:
https://www.seawings.ca/

slake · Post by **slake** » Thu Feb 11, 2021 5:25 pm

Derigging:
1) do people remove the mast from the board with everything assembled (ie. wing, mast, fuselage, tail wing)?
2) do people fully disassemble their foil regularly?
3) use a board bag if they are removing the foil?

Or if feasible does the whole kit just stay fully assembled? Board stored/transported upside down with the foil in the air. Foil connections checked periodically? Every time?

winddoctor · Post by **winddoctor** » Thu Feb 11, 2021 8:39 pm

slake wrote:Derigging:
1) do people remove the mast from the board with everything assembled (ie. wing, mast, fuselage, tail wing)?

Only if you need to. Mine fits in the van fully assembled. Foil stays on board and shortens rigging time. If you need to, remove foil fully assembled from board with covers and toss (gently place ) in car.

2) do people fully disassemble their foil regularly?

Armstrong foils: not necessary as they have titanium bolts/cores. Other systems with stainless/aluminum/carbon disassembly and tefgel application on bolts a good idea every so often (once/month??).

3) use a board bag if they are removing the foil?

Not a bad idea but mine stays home most often as the board's in the van. If I'm travelling on the highway with board on racks for a fair distance then board is in bag.

Or if feasible does the whole kit just stay fully assembled?

Mine stays together.

Board stored/transported upside down with the foil in the air.

Yes.

Foil connections checked periodically? Every time?

Good habit to give a quick check every time, but I find my foil's bolts stay seated snuggly. I'll do a quick wiggle/torque of the front and rear foil to check for play before heading out. Some systems will have the bolts loosen during a session and need a closer eye on retightening.

juandesooka · Post by **juandesooka** » Thu Feb 11, 2021 8:45 pm

X2
plus put a pinch valve on wing to leave Centre strut inflated too . Fast rigging!

UnusuallyLargeRobin · Post by **UnusuallyLargeRobin** » Thu Feb 11, 2021 8:48 pm

slake wrote:Derigging:
1) do people remove the mast from the board with everything assembled (ie. wing, mast, fuselage, tail wing)?
2) do people fully disassemble their foil regularly?
3) use a board bag if they are removing the foil?

Most everyone removes the foil from the board, puts board in a bag. Leaves the foil intact for months at a time, periodically checking bolts for tightness. The key to leaving foil intact is using Tef-Gel on the bolt threads at time of assembly to prevent corrosion and seizing
Next outing, you then only have to attach the foil to board and your off to the water!

grantmac · Post by **grantmac** » Fri Feb 12, 2021 1:44 am

My car space is limited so I disassemble everything. Also had poor experience with aluminum foils being left together.
Adds perhaps 5 minutes on each end of a session which I don't mind, gives me a bit of time to watch the conditions and decide which wing to pump.

juandesooka · Post by **juandesooka** » Fri Feb 12, 2021 1:40 pm

here's a wingfoil bodydrag "how to". Worthy of some practice once it gets warmer....if it works well enough, maybe can consider no board eash in some situations.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5TCn_F_NS8[/youtube]

slake · Post by **slake** » Fri Feb 12, 2021 1:40 pm

Cool, thanks for the replies. Think I'll generally try to keep the whole thing assembled. Normally will have the room to do so.

Winddoc do you put Tef-Gel, or any other lubricant, on the Armstrong threads? I assume not. Found this - https://www.armstrongfoils.com/media/21 ... manual.pdf - doesn't seem to suggest anything. Going to watch this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhCSwVic_2Y in full, when I have a spare hour. At minute 5 Armie A. says "no grease"...so I plan to put it together dry.

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