Ideal Windsurf / Kiting Vehicle?

JL · Post by JL » Mon Sep 09, 2013 2:56 pm

http://www.iksurfmag.com/kitesurfing-ne ... rns-heads/ Waiting for Canadian version

http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2013/0 ... ntil-2015/ http://www.ramtrucks.com/en/2014/ram_pr ... white/mono ... http://www.ramtrucks.com/en/2014/ram_pr ... _promaster ... Promaster is based on a Fiat van. Starts ~ $ 32,000 in Canada with a 3 liter inline 4 diesel a $6,000 option. 174h.p. 295 ft./pounds torque & a 6 spd. semi-auto trans (clutchless shift if you want to)

A perfect candidate for a conversion ... Ford will be introducing a full size Transit for 2015 BUT have stayed with rear wheel drive for our market. The lowest roof leaves only 56.9" while the front wheel drive Promaster has 65" ... It will be interesting to see what local conversions ( http://www.gtrv.com/photos etc.) are produced.

windaddiction · Post by **windaddiction** » Mon Sep 09, 2013 6:38 pm

Now if that comes with an optional Diesel engine, I would seriously consider trading the VW wagon in! MY wife is pushnig hard for a mini van but right now I just can't give up the MPG's!

nanmoo · Post by **nanmoo** » Mon Sep 09, 2013 6:48 pm

The Promaster is so fugly. The Transit sisters are both beauties.

I read over the weekend that the GM Canyon is coming back with the same diesel that is in the new Cruze. Throw a canopy or a small camper on that... nice, nice, nice. Now if only there was a next generation diesel Ranger here...

more force 4 · Post by **more force 4** » Mon Sep 09, 2013 6:56 pm

windaddiction, my Sprinter got 9.2 litres per 100 km on the Nat trip yesterday - 30.7 mpg, not bad for 'Real' not 'estimated' and for so much windage, a bunch of harsh gravel and the Malahat in the middle of the 'highway'.

The Fiat looks interesting though....

windaddiction · Post by **windaddiction** » Mon Sep 09, 2013 7:35 pm

Wow thats great for a full size van!! Diesel's seem to be creeping back into N.A. slowly. The new cruize engine looks nice however.... only about 800$ less than the german 2.0 TDI. I still think the ecoboost maybe be slightly supirior to a diesel however due to lower maintance cost!

My last long trip towing the tent trailer, with the sup on top and the wagon full i still got 7.2l/100 km! I just wish either the wagon was slightly bigger, or they would put that 2.0 TDI in a new mini bus or something!

odly enough though my 2000 jetta RDI, which is my comuter, gets better MPG than my 2011 wagon, but the jetta is gutless comapred with the newer engine!

nanmoo · Post by **nanmoo** » Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:03 am

We've got a newer one too, and sure it has balls but I'd still prefer the simplicity and economy of the older TDI's even if that means its slower with more noise.

JL · Post by JL » Tue Sep 10, 2013 10:01 am

http://www.caranddriver.com/photos-10q2 ... oto-340979

windaddiction · Post by **windaddiction** » Tue Sep 10, 2013 5:40 pm

The old ones are only slightly simpler... you still need the computer just to set the darn timing.... hey for your newish one is it the CR engine (2009 and newer) if so send me a PM there is a TSB I had done on mine to an issue that affacts us "northern" folk.

JL · Post by JL » Wed Sep 11, 2013 8:45 am

Fiat based (promaster) http://www.avan.com.au/products_applause.html http://www.avan.com.au/gallery/web_gall ... efault.htm

nanmoo · Post by **nanmoo** » Wed Sep 11, 2013 9:01 pm

North America didn't have any VW diesels between the years of 2006 and 2009.. so by new I mean 2009 and later aka the joint Audi/VW/Benz motors marketed as bluetec/clean diesel.

So yes, 2009.

The older diesels were far more simple, not the motor itself obviously, but the emissions control systems that used to be non-existent, and now are extremely complicated. I'm just thankful they didn't go with a urea injection system, some of the pickups with those have had nothing but trouble not to mention the cost!

JL · Post by JL » Wed Sep 11, 2013 9:06 pm

Good points

JL · Post by JL » Fri Sep 13, 2013 8:54 am

http://www.allpar.com/trucks/ram/ProMaster.html I'm wary of the "Urea diesel exhaust fluid is integrated with heated lines to protect the system from freezing, and the five-gallon tank gives nearly 4,000 miles of service." The Mitsubishi FUSO uses the same engine & is already in our market so shops should be familiar with it.

nanmoo · Post by **nanmoo** » Fri Sep 13, 2013 9:02 am

Yep, less is more. It's so unfair too, the big rigs aren't having to run any of these complicated systems.. yet...

JL · Post by JL » Fri Sep 13, 2013 9:06 am

I like this: "An oil-level sensor helps operators to get up to 18,500 miles between oil changes, increasing on-the-road time." I suspect the 'sensor' is analyzing more than the oil level

windaddiction · Post by **windaddiction** » Sat Sep 14, 2013 8:35 am

So a mistake made to my last post, the SCR is for NOx emissions, where as SOx have generally be handled by going to ultra low sulfur diesel.

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